A retired Arizona Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms agent who went undercover to infiltrate the Hells Angel Motorcycle Gang said it would be naive to think something like the Waco shooting wouldn't happen in Arizona.
Jay Dobyns worked with the ATF for more than 27 years. While he's credited for bringing down a number of criminals and illegal enterprises, he's best known for his infiltration of the Hells Angels.
He's believed to be the first law enforcement officer to become a full patched member, something he says the club's leadership denies.
Covered in tattoos and skull rings, photos show what the undercover ATF agent Jay Dobyns looked like when he infiltrated the club in Arizona in 2001.
"During the two years I spent with the gang, there were 7-8 club related murders. Much of what we saw in Texas are things I experienced, club on club violence," said Jay Dobyns.
Dobyns said Sunday's gunfight in Texas was a brewing turf battle between biker clubs. He says the same thing could happen in Arizona, where the Hells Angels rule.
"They control Arizona, but there are other gangs that want a piece of Arizona, namely the Mongols who they've had a 30 year running blood bath war with, to think that it couldn't happen here, that an event like we saw in Waco couldn't happen in Arizona, you're being naive," he said.
Dobyns said law enforcement in Texas is on high alert.
"There's been validated and credible documented threats of green light hits on law enforcement officers in uniform. These guys might not be the most educated, or book smart, but they have their PHD's in intimidation, they know how to scare people," said Dobyns.
Dobyns knows first hand, after his identity as an undercover agent was revealed in 2004, he says he felt the wrath of the Hells Angels.
"Death threats, threats on my family, threats on my kids, threats on my wife, my house was burned to the ground in 2008," he said.
"Somehow remarkable my family stuck by me," said Dobyns.
"That gang, that patch, it's their religion, it's the bible, they live by it, and they'll fight for it. They'll kill for it, and we've seen many times they believe in it so strongly they'll kill for it," he said.
Dobyns sued the government, saying in part the ATF failed to properly address the threats. A judge ruled in his favor last year.
Dobyns recently retired from the ATF, he still lives in Arizona and runs a consulting firm.